Animinimal` +H` InTheDay

[Qwiksilver]

Thanks for all the input guys but this has run its course i feel.

Oakadin we will monitor the situation and take whatever steps we feel are required. Thanks for your input.

[Oakadin]

yea i know but was in a aggrivated mood due to pain lol so couldnt sleep and you can tell things like an aimbot from stats.

yea his k/d ratio isnt great but thats not the issue you could wall hack and have 1 kill to 100 deaths if ur bad its the consistantly high headshot ratio that im suspect on and the how many bullets to kill a player 1.7 is EXTREAMELY low hell haveing 3-4 bpk is good 1.7 is unreal that means he is 1 shotting near every kill with all weapons any lower than this and its inhuman full stop and you cant put it down to they all had low hp etc as how often does that happen in a month never mind a day then every day. 

[jamie -(musician)-]

Rather than full blown posts of people stats the issue should be raised once and then let for the admins to work on.
When in-game and you see something like stueh mentioned you should either tell a admin if any is online at the time or record demo and send it to a admin
if none is available at the time.

Post upon post makes it sound more like a witch hunt which can be fround upon or make admin feel like you are looking for every little detail.

1 post is enough and i can 100% guarantee you that the admins will have seen it and make a discussion behind closed doors rather than a public
(Forum mods are always looking at every post made)

Stats are just stats at the end of the day and some people like to see what position they are in to others for a little in-game challange rather than how many times they got headshots.

Looking on the stats page...
pos 31 - A bit on the pro side.` +H`

Admins would probably look at this and wonder what the issue his because his k/d is Kills-503 Deaths-287 pretty average.

Admins have been made aware of the situation and it probably is best to let them deal with it without posting pages of stats.

Do not take this the wrong way Oakadin i am trying to view this from a different side aswell lke the admins would
and i can undertsand your issue and the best thing to do is wait to see if anything happens and the next encounter spectate him and record the constant headshots in question.

[Predator_jnr]

wouldn't waste your breathe matey, so much BS these days and too many excuses!! (not bitter much)

[Oakadin]

the point you are missing is his acc is realy bad with all weapons not good and i spoke to an admin on my firends list and look at the 7 hs kill streak all with the ak

by the time i was pretty sure that he was getting to many hs.

btw i know how high players play i was once in MOD top ED and we had lan winning teams..... i am not some idiot thats a noob i had a stroke witch forced me into not playing.

oh and also i used to play with the likes of beta and wilco who was in 4kings i used to play alot with the guys from TP.GLG who mod destroyed in ED and also Fm!Toxic so dont talk down to me.

yes im a horrible player now but thats after a stroke and haveing a hemorraged disk in my neck im thankfull i can even still play tbh...

if this happend in a match enviroment then fine mr15 very high head shots per kill can and do happen BUT on a server with 15 people per side nades every were random shooting every were but over the space of 400+ kills and over an amount of days while keeping a low acc with all weapons but seems to hit the target every time when its the head shows he aint right.

but what do i care he didnt kill me much today as he was always on my team...

my problem is with him he pretty much only kills with head shots soon as he aint getting a hs were his bullet per kill is 1.7 his acc goes to hell i would expect some one who can get that many headshots with such a great bullet per kill to have better acc accross weapons like you have or ollz i dont expect a crack shot to be so poor at anything else but head shots.

(sorry i was very sharp here stue alot of pain tonight, not realy aimd at you)

Name    Position     Kills    Deaths    Kpd    Hs    Hpk
United KingdomCrazy like a fox    17    13    6    2.17    11    84.62%
United Kingdom[MAG] Kiwi has got the minerals !    23    11    1    11.00    9    81.82%
IrelandTony Zaza    391    7    1    7.00    4    57.14%
United KingdomLee    394    6    2    3.00    5    83.33%
Turkey

The Awesome Guy.    105    6    1    6.00    5    83.33% JokerDooD    16    5    4    1.25    2    40.00% UK.Hardcor3    353    5    2    2.50    3    60.00% Belgium// b3Dh34d \\    103    5    1    5.00    5    100.00% UnknownOakie @ FU    9    5    1    5.00    3

[Stueh]

Couple of things that you might not have know:

1. To message the admins privately while in game... hit your teamsay button (usually "u") then press the @ symbol and type your message. so "@Please can you watch x for x reason" or "@Is there chance of a map vote"
2. To record a demo, hit your console key (usually "`", the one next to 1) and type "record <demo name>" replacing <demo name> with a name of your choice, usually the player name. Straight after that, type "zb_netinfo" this will print all the steamids and rates to the console window when you watch it back. Once you have enough footage go back to console and type "stop". Then post a message either on here or via steam friends and they will direct you want to do with the footage.

Like the others have said, going around Juan Deag'ing people will get you rubbish accuracy due to the nature of the deagle yet a very high hspk rate. Please also bare in mind that an average headshot with a deagle will do ~130 damage even with kevlar and helmet. Hell i've done 127 damage with a grenade before (never thought that was possible but it is).

If you want to see how inaccurate the deagle really is when you fire it. Goto console and type these:

map de_dust2
sv_cheats 1
sv_showimpacts 1
give weapon_deagle

Then run to a wall and shoot. See the bullet spread. I hope this has "educated" you in the ways of the game engine.

To answer your point (again) about how he can be a "higher" player is that i will often empty a clip into double doors at mid on dust2 if I know an enemy is behind there. If I opted to wait until I saw them, my accuracy would average out about 60%,  my hspk would be about 80/90% and my average shots per kill about 2/3.

I encourage you to come on to teamspeak when you see me playing on the server, I am almost always on MAG's ts with others chatting about general things. We could answer any questions that you may have at the time.

/thread (please lock)

[Oakadin]

also look at this 2k shots only 600hits but 50k damage 80% hs for deag i realy dont see how you can miss that much but be so accurate to kill so much by head shots

Weapon    Shots    Hits    Damage     Kills    Deaths    Kpd    Hs    Hpk    Accuracy    Dph    Spk
Desert Eagle .50AE    2,080    626    53,288    172    45    3.82    145    84.30%    30.10%    85.10    12.10
Kalashnikov AK-47    2,905    587    33,146    125    91    1.37    94    75.20%    20.21%    56.50    23.20
Steyr Scout    1,113    339    46,211    102    15    6.80    74    72.55%    30.46%    136.30    10.90
Colt M4A1 Carbine    1,048    242    9,536    33    69    0.48    22    66.67%    23.09%    39.40    31.80
H&K USP .45 Tactical    491    113    3,930    14    5    2.80    9    64.29%    23.01%    34.80    35.10
Glock 18 Select Fire    189    86    3,350    12    5    2.40    12    100.00%    45.50%    39.00    15.80
High Explosive Grenade    65    81    2,207    10    6    1.67    -    0.00%    124.62%    27.20    6.50
Galil    166    40    1,738    8    4    2.00    5    62.50%    24.10%    43.50    20.80
FN P90    186    48    1,100    7    14    0.50    1    14.29%    25.81%    22.90    26.60
H&K MP5-Navy    194    48    826    4    3    1.33    2    50.00%    24.74%    17.20    48.50
Steyr Tactical Machine Pistol    189    41    750    4    0    4.00    2    50.00%    21.69%    18.30    47.30

from the session tab on his stats for today
 Date    Change    Points    Time    Rounds    Win Ratio    Kills    Deaths    Kpd    Kill Streak    Team Kills    Hs    Hpk    Accuracy
05/02/2013    234234 Points    1,622    0d 00:44h    31       47    18    2.61    7    -    37       
47 kills 37 headshots kill streak of 7 all head shots :p

this is his stats for inc server http://stats.inc-gaming-clan.com/playerinfo/296901 over 2k kills and still 70-80% head shots rofl

and he aint Juan deag on that :p

kills 2,738 (224*)
Headshots:   1,923 (167*)
and yet he has very poor acc again
any way im done you can spec him but his stats say he should not be getting as many head shots as he does.

[Oakadin]

i did msg kiwi when he was on the server to record i didnt as i was thinking he hits hs to much it wasnt untill a 7man hs on train that i realy felt he was bs.

and he left after i was checking his stats look at his ak kills 125 kills 95 hs rofl bit high dont you think

you will need to watch him ur self then i know a bs player when i see one just coz im a bad player now doesnt mean i always was one :p

he toggles or uses a hs bot there harder to see as you have to have ur xhair over the head and it auto shoots would explain why the rest of his shooting is horrible

[Cake]

Running around trying to get juan deags gets you killed a lot.

Any demos to show anything dodgy?

[Oakadin]

Weapon    Name    Modifier     Kills    Kills %    Deaths    Deaths %    Hs    Hs %    Hpk
Kalashnikov AK-47    Kalashnikov AK-47    1.00    1,598    40.77%    584    35.72%    806    42.20%    50.44%
Colt M4A1 Carbine    Colt M4A1 Carbine    1.00    1,165    29.72%    461    28.20%    526    27.54%    45.15%
Desert Eagle .50AE    Desert Eagle .50AE    1.20    432    11.02%    207    12.66%    218    11.41%    50.46%
Steyr Scout    Steyr Scout    1.10    253    6.45%    52    3.18%    141    7.38%    55.73%
H&K USP .45 Tactical    H&K USP .45 Tactical    1.40    122    3.11%    57    3.49%    80    4.19%    65.57%
Glock 18 Select Fire    Glock 18 Select Fire    1.40    120    3.06%    9    0.55%    79    4.14%    65.83%
High Explosive Grenade    High Explosive Grenade    1.80    81    2.07%    34    2.08%    -    0.00%    0.00%
H&K MP5-Navy    H&K MP5-Navy    1.20    67    1.71%    21    1.28%    42    2.20%    62.69%
Bundeswehr Advanced Combat Knife    Bundeswehr Advanced Combat Knife    2.00    35    0.89%    23    1.41%    -    0.00%    0.00%
FN P90    FN P90    1.20    22    0.56%    78    4.77%    10    0.52%    45.45%
Sig Sauer SG-552 Commando    Sig Sauer SG-552 Commando    1.00    6    0.15%    6    0.37%    2    0.10%    33.33%
Benelli M3 Super 90 Combat    Benelli M3 Super 90 Combat    1.20    6    0.15%    3    0.18%    1    0.05%    16.67%
Benelli/H&K M4 Super 90 XM1014    Benelli/H&K M4 Super 90 XM1014    1.10    3    0.08%    2    0.12%    3    0.16%    100.00%
Steyr Tactical Machine Pistol    Steyr Tactical Machine Pistol    1.50    3    0.08%    3    0.18%    1    0.05%    33.33%
Galil    Galil    1.10    3    0.08%    4    0.24%    1    0.05%    33.33%
Fusil Automatique    Fusil Automatique    

thats Ollz who is one of the best on the server very big differeance



and this is Stue another very good player

Weapon    Name    Modifier     Kills    Kills %    Deaths    Deaths %    Hs    Hs %    Hpk
Kalashnikov AK-47    Kalashnikov AK-47    1.00    966    35.15%    484    38.75%    541    37.52%    56.00%
Colt M4A1 Carbine    Colt M4A1 Carbine    1.00    917    33.37%    261    20.90%    463    32.11%    50.49%
Desert Eagle .50AE    Desert Eagle .50AE    1.20    484    17.61%    158    12.65%    286    19.83%    59.09%
Steyr Scout    Steyr Scout    1.10    97    3.53%    32    2.56%    62    4.30%    63.92%
High Explosive Grenade    High Explosive Grenade    1.80    71    2.58%    41    3.28%    -    0.00%    0.00%
H&K USP .45 Tactical    H&K USP .45 Tactical    1.40    55    2.00%    31    2.48%    20    1.39%    36.36%
Fusil Automatique    Fusil Automatique    1.00    31    1.13%    9    0.72%    18    1.25%    58.06%
H&K MP5-Navy    H&K MP5-Navy    1.20    24    0.87%    27    2.16%    10    0.69%    41.67%
Bundeswehr Advanced Combat Knife    Bundeswehr Advanced Combat Knife    2.00    23    0.84%    17    1.36%    -    0.00%    0.00%
Galil    Galil    1.10    16    0.58%    12    0.96%    11    0.76%    68.75%
Glock 18 Select Fire    Glock 18 Select Fire    1.40    15    0.55%    21    1.68%    10    0.69%    66.67%
FN P90    FN P90    1.20    14    0.51%    79    6.33%    4    0.28%    28.57%
Steyr Aug    Steyr Aug    1.00    10    0.36%    1    0.08%    5    0.35%    50.00%
Dual Beretta 96G Elite    Dual Beretta 96G Elite    1.40    9    0.33%    14    1.12%    5    0.35%    55.56%
Benelli/H&K M4 Super 90 XM1014    Benelli/H&K M4 Super 90 XM1014    1.10    8    0.29%    -    0.00%    4    0.28%    50.00%

now how can he be much higher than them at every thing but be a worse player lol

[Oakadin]

i thought that at first but look at the other guns pretty much all at 70-80% hs

Weapon    Name    Modifier     Kills    Kills %    Deaths    Deaths %    Hs    Hs %    Hpk
Desert Eagle .50AE    1.20    172    34.40%    45    15.79%    145    39.08%    84.30%
Kalashnikov AK-47    Kalashnikov AK-47    1.00    125    25.00%    91    31.93%    94    25.34%    75.20%
Steyr Scout    Steyr Scout    1.10    102    20.40%    15    5.26%    74    19.95%    72.55%
Colt M4A1 Carbine    Colt M4A1 Carbine    1.00    33    6.60%    69    24.21%    22    5.93%    66.67%
H&K USP .45 Tactical    H&K USP .45 Tactical    1.40    14    2.80%    5    1.75%    9    2.43%    64.29%
Glock 18 Select Fire    Glock 18 Select Fire    1.40    12    2.40%    5    1.75%    12    3.23%    100.00%
High Explosive Grenade    High Explosive Grenade    1.80    10    2.00%    6    2.11%    -    0.00%    0.00%
Galil    Galil    1.10    8    1.60%    4    1.40%    5    1.35%    62.50%
FN P90    FN P90    1.20    7    1.40%    14    4.91%    1    0.27%    14.29%
Steyr Tactical Machine Pistol    Steyr Tactical Machine Pistol    1.50    4    0.80%    -    0.00%    2    0.54%    50.00%
H&K MP5-Navy    H&K MP5-Navy    1.20    4    0.80%    3    1.05%    2    0.54%    50.00%
Sig Sauer P-228    Sig Sauer P-228    1.50    3    0.60%    1    0.35%    2    0.54%    66.67%
Bundeswehr Advanced Combat Knife    Bundeswehr Advanced Combat Knife    2.00    3       2    0.70%    -    0.00%    0.00%
FN Five-Seven    FN Five-Seven    1.50    2    0.40%    -       2


but also look at his shot placement part 70+% middle

[Rich]

Deagle is his weapon of choice. Accuracy and HSPK is high because of this and considering 1/3 of all kills are from his Deagle it'll skew the stats.

The guy basically runs around going 'JUAN DEAG' to most people he comes across., didn't look suspect to me, just talented

[Oakadin]

its his low accuracy and high hpk and very low kill per shot, how do you kill more with fewer shots but miss loads?

and look at his states over 400 kills BUT still has a HPK near 80% your HPK goes down the more kills/play time you get that goes for every one.

If he only had 40-50 kills i could understand 80% but out of 400 kills were talking a stupid ammount thats like 350-370 hs out of 400? that is not normal if you take into account lag/latency/luck/skill/unkown factores.

and its not like i got owned and im just crying he spent most the time on my team and i was specing him he has w2orse aim stats than ollz you and others but only has to fire 1.7 shots to kill with 30-40% better head shot rateing.

oh and when you came on was on train after i just called him out after a 7 man hs round by him his kpd dropped alot then.


also going by ur stats 4.0 bullets per kill, 25% acc , 50% hs per kill i consider that normal even up to 60% but on a pub server people every were lots of shooting 80% hs per kill is not normal and its not like its a one off look at all the times he has connected always 70-90% even kayz
only has 50% hs per kill lol and alot think he hacks.

[Stueh]

Dont quiet know what your main point is. If you play properly and dont spam you will get those high percentages. I know I am certainly capable of 50% accuracy and 90%+ hspk but I try and spam through the doors and things which will decrease those figures. So it's possible, doesn't mean they are hacking just by the stats. If he was 400 kills for 4 deaths or something, i would probably agree but I dont remember having any reason to spec him whilst i was on, so he can't of been that much of bs!

[tonedcos]

Thanks for the heads up.