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General => Banned => Topic started by: Helgrrr on June 17, 2008, 09:43:31 AM

Title: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Helgrrr on June 17, 2008, 09:43:31 AM
Lucid   STEAM_0:0:444459

http://middleagedgamers.hlstatsx.com/hlstats.php?mode=sessions&player=4909

Mav was talking about this guy last night but I didnt get a chance to spec him, but apparently there have been a lot of mutterings about him. I'm not surprised, if you check his session data above you will see he often has a kpd of 5, 6 or 7.

Not even Rich gets scores that high, maybe someone should demo him next time he's on.

ps I only put this in the banned section to get your attention, but hey it'll prob save time later.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Ziggy on June 17, 2008, 10:19:36 AM
Lucid   STEAM_0:0:444459

http://middleagedgamers.hlstatsx.com/hlstats.php?mode=sessions&player=4909

Mav was talking about this guy last night but I didnt get a chance to spec him, but apparently there have been a lot of mutterings about him. I'm not surprised, if you check his session data above you will see he often has a kpd of 5, 6 or 7.

Not even Rich gets scores that high, maybe someone should demo him next time he's on.

ps I only put this in the banned section to get your attention, but hey it'll prob save time later.

what ever happened to the presumption of innocence then ?   ::)
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Stone_Monkey on June 17, 2008, 10:26:55 AM
LOL Ziggy

he killed them all ;D
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Mav3r1ck on June 17, 2008, 16:57:40 PM
I've seen some flashes of absolute brilliance from this guy and then some real dumb ass moments.  If he does have some kind of Hax's it may well be the button switching on/off kind, because that would certainly explain a few things.

If he dosent have Hax then he is quite possibly one of the best players on our server to date.

He needs to be thoroughly watched in my opinion.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: clyde on June 17, 2008, 17:35:58 PM
my opinion too mav, sunday night on cbble me and geo were taking him out with relative ease, he was constantly camping in the same place and then on italy he beat me to death then abused my corpse on numerous occassions
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Iceman on June 17, 2008, 18:35:37 PM
105 kills and only 21 deaths in 1hr 23min lol we must of been lining up for him
and then he gets
56 kills and only 22 deaths in 1hr 1min (we must of spread out) ;D

My eye is out and ready ha arhh :D
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Booker T on June 17, 2008, 18:43:14 PM
OK guys, I've had my eye on him.  I asked Ben to spec him last night and Ben reckons he wallhacks.  I think he aimbots.

I've demoed him twice

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid1.dem (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid1.dem)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid2.dem (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid2.dem)

I spoke to Jack about his hax and he explained that the aimbot he used doesn't move to the head straight away, it does it in smaller jumps.  You don't get the hs straight away so it looks less suspicious.

If you watch the first demo his recoil always jerks up towards the head.  Recoil of course should go up, so it's a bit strange that on the 2nd demo when he kills the guy Hullio something or other his recoil jumps to the left, which just happens to be the way the hullio guys player model falls.

I reckon he's hacking, I shall leave it up to the other MAGs to judge.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Helgrrr on June 17, 2008, 19:14:55 PM
I do find it hard to believe the number of kpd he's has against you personally Vimes, about 11 kpd if I remember rightly.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: critch on June 18, 2008, 13:11:27 PM
Had 2 scores of 20-4 last night, had a few lucky shots at first I was like wtf but we all get em. Dont think he is dodgy tbh but who am I  :P
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Mav3r1ck on June 18, 2008, 13:12:14 PM
OK guys, I've had my eye on him.  I asked Ben to spec him last night and Ben reckons he wallhacks.  I think he aimbots.

I've demoed him twice

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid1.dem (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid1.dem)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid2.dem (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/william.ramsay1/lucid2.dem)

I spoke to Jack about his hax and he explained that the aimbot he used doesn't move to the head straight away, it does it in smaller jumps.  You don't get the hs straight away so it looks less suspicious.

If you watch the first demo his recoil always jerks up towards the head.  Recoil of course should go up, so it's a bit strange that on the 2nd demo when he kills the guy Hullio something or other his recoil jumps to the left, which just happens to be the way the hullio guys player model falls.

I reckon he's hacking, I shall leave it up to the other MAGs to judge.

I looked at these demos last night and also noticed the way the cursor drops as the guy goes down.

My personal opinion is he is hacking, and switching them on and off to try and coer his tracks.  If he's not hacking he falls into the catagory of "too good for this server" and IMHO is only going to ruin the expeirience for everyone else.

Sorry but my vote goes for a perm ban
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Helgrrr on June 18, 2008, 13:16:34 PM
by the way, can someone write up some proper instructions for how to demo people and how to watch demos etc cos I don't have a clue ta
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: pan on June 18, 2008, 13:29:48 PM
You can ban people for being too good for the server?
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Mav3r1ck on June 18, 2008, 13:39:04 PM
You can ban people for being too good for the server?

No-one told you - obviously your ban hasn't kicked in yet  :D

I am of course joking - despite the fact you in particular are one of the best players on the server you are still very much killable and indeed human.

Many moons ago the MAG clan discussed the possibility of removing people who were "too good" for the server and basically spoil the ambiance for everyone else.  I don't know if were still doing this because I don't see that we have had anyone on that falls into that catagory, but if Lucid is not hacking and is capable of getting a KPD of 7.00 in 41 mins (56kills 8 deaths) and 5.91 in 1 hour (65 kills 11 deaths) then IMO he does fall into this catagory.

Chances are of course he is a HAX MAN  :-\
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: tonedcos on June 18, 2008, 13:42:00 PM
by the way, can someone write up some proper instructions for how to demo people and how to watch demos etc cos I don't have a clue ta

I would like to know that as well. Tried watching the demo's but couldn't see them.  ;)
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Mav3r1ck on June 18, 2008, 21:35:30 PM
I have banned Lucid from the server tonight having watched him for about 10 mins. 

During the first few rounds I specced him he, he did hardly anything and cound't hit a thing, all of a sudden he was able to hit anything and everything with just one or two shots.  All seems like head shots as well to me.

I have been of the opinion he has been hacing for some time and took a stand tongiht. 

I think this needs to be properly discussed and reviewed by all MAG's and the ban enforced or lifted if everyone is not in agreeance.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Lucid on June 18, 2008, 22:02:13 PM
Hello all, my first post :) I came across your server by noticing a few of my steam friends play here regularly, namely Dodge & nick rivers(Baron), who are both in the same clan as me, unfortunately I got banned as maverick says but I do not cheat, Iv'e played cs for roughly 7 years & i despise cheaters with a passion. I'm not sure what i have to do to get unbanned, maybe talk to someone on vent or?

My time played on the server is about 12hrs, from the cheaters I've seen throughout the years you can spot them in a matter of minutes. Mav wrote: "I've seen some flashes of absolute brilliance from this guy and then some real dumb ass moments"  lol your right mate, I can play unbelievably badly sometimes & other times can get 6 kills a round which is more luck than owt else :)

Anyway let me know if it is possible to be unbanned, I've only been playing on the server for the last 2weeks but its already my fav at mo. If on the other hand you believe I'm spoiling the fun of others & shouldn't play here because I'm too good for the server (i don't think so at all) then thats fair enough but I'd like to tackle the cheating/hacking allegation.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: choddychod on June 18, 2008, 22:09:58 PM
Thanks Lucid, we will discuss this behind closed doors and let you know the outcome.

Thanks for the post.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Dodge on June 19, 2008, 09:52:16 AM
Hi Peeps i was on the server at the time the ban happened i didnt say anything then as the server is not the place to do so where as on here is.

Lucid or Bunts , Bountyhunter as i know him is a member of the Muppet Clan like you a gaming community setup by lets say the more senior members like me to play css in a friendlly way with no swearing good banter and definatly no cheating or haxes. A while ago some members wanted to start another clan on the same lines called Ghostworks which as you know members come and play on your server being still friends with them this was how i found your server and like wise how lucid found you. Sadly Muppets no longer play CSS  games like TF2.cod 4 have replaced it so i dont know whats going to happen with peeps like me. who rather still play CSS.

Lucid does not cheat he is tho a very good player who has played for years in clanbase,enemydown etc etc
just like me . I admit i sometimes get very frustrated with him sometimes i can kill him with ease othertimes hes unhittable etc lol but tbh that can happen with any very good playerl i found the same with the good players on here like maverick.headhunter even Googy but i dont think for one moment they use cheats or haxes i put it down to thats CSS for you.

I hope this helps i like your server its run well and tbh it will attract the good players like lucid servers like yours are getting rare these days .

Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: choddychod on June 19, 2008, 09:57:34 AM
Thanks Dodge, we appreciate your comments.

Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: tonedcos on June 19, 2008, 10:04:38 AM
Nice 1 Dodge.  ;)
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: googy on June 19, 2008, 18:19:24 PM
even googy wtf lmfao thx dodgy 8)
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Rudie on June 19, 2008, 18:46:14 PM
Im goin to ban Googy for teh hax !
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: choddychod on June 19, 2008, 18:58:44 PM
There is a vote underway Lucis (cus thats how we handle all bannings that are appealed by the player), the result will be posted this time tomorrow.

Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Lucid on June 19, 2008, 19:18:41 PM
Roger that, appreciate it.
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: choddychod on June 20, 2008, 19:15:07 PM
The MAG's have been merciful, your ban has been lifted, let me know if you have trouble getting on the server.

Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: clyde on June 20, 2008, 19:36:06 PM
i have problems getting on the server. i get steam error i.d_your_not_getting_on_here_fat_boy


i think googy might be the culprit
Title: Re: Has anyone checked this out
Post by: Lucid on June 20, 2008, 20:55:48 PM
Cheers fellas.